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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:13 am 
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I was just checking out some prices when I came across this on petzoo.co.uk http://www.petzoo.co.uk/extra_info_page ... ages_id=29

Don't look if you are eating or have a sensitive stomach, but it does show you the dangers of keeping small reptiles on fine bark and so called 'digestable' sand manufactured for reptiles :shock:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:45 am 
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horrible sight, but it proves a good point there. it would put me off from buying it if i didn't know bout calci sand.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:18 pm 
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That maybe a 'good' link to use if someone is using calci sand and doesn't understand why they should remove it :(

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:49 pm 
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I've made this a 'sticky' so we can direct people to it. A picture is worth a thousand words!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:30 pm 
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Really confused now! A friend's 2 Beardies became impacted on playsand and after careful nursing they recovered and he was advised to use calci sand instead by the vet. The specialist reptile shop (they are also breeders) also recommended calci sand to us as did my local vet (a reptile specialist) All said it wasn't a problem if the beardie was only eating crix off the sand but any other food was to be put in a dish.
I don't know who to listen to!!!! :?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:51 pm 
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Any type of sand carries a risk - the risk is less with fine playsand.

Never put a beardie on sand before the age of 6 months - when young they are inaccurate feeders and take in mouthfuls of sand as they catch their food. When older they are more accurate.

If you want your beardie to be totally risk free with substrate use tiles. A good substrate is sandstone slabs with sand in the cracks, and perhaps a sand pit for him to dig in if he wants. This is better than pure sand, and much more natural for them. In the wild they live on impacted sand, so sandstone is ideal. It also keeps the nails down.

My Stumpy has a deformed mouth, so I can never put him on sand. Hadesdragons has a beardie that is just seems to take in sand with his food - he spotted it in his faeces, and so that beardie doesn't have a sand substrate either.

The choice of substrate is up to you, but any loose substrate carries a risk, and it's your choice how much risk. Most of us settle for the sandstone and sand mix - natural, less risk, and looks good in the viv.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:18 pm 
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Thanks. I have tiles with calci sand on top at the moment and Ozzy seems quite accurate catching his crix but I'll probably swap it now. I'm worried about upsetting him too much as he's new though. I do wish all the so-called experts would agree as it would make our lives so much easier :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:23 pm 
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It is very confusing, in the recent 'Practical Reptile Keeping' a couple of the articles mention the dangers of calci sand, so hopefully research is going on and it will 'filter' down to everybody else.
As long as people are aware of the risk they can make there own decision.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:59 am 
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Ali, I guess you have to believe the people that have said it's dangerous, especially with those pics to back up what they are saying. I have heard stories before about cacli sand, and other sand, being dangerous. Never seen the pictorial evidence of the dangers of using it before though.


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:31 pm 
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Having looked at those pic. will be putting more sand stone slabs in slash's viv.
He has 2 slabs with a large sand pit, will make the sand area smaller to reduce the risk. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:52 pm 
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what is the best substrate to use i have the bark as thats what they had in there viv when they catch there food sometimes ive seen them get the bark but they always sort it out and spit it back out iam now worried of the risks with this
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:56 pm 
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Up until they're about 6 months old most of us just use kitchen paper towels. After that sandstone slabs with play sand seems the best selection.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:11 am 
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thank you rick :D


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:52 pm 
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when trying to view link it says forbidden i do not have permission to view :( could someone upload the image so i could see please :(


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:23 pm 
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I'm getting the same message - looks likw a broken link. I'll see if I can chase down another link on line.

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