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 Post subject: Long brumation...
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:48 pm 
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We got Walter (who's a girl, turns out) last May - in June she went into brumation and well, she's still there. We wake her up once a week for a bath and sometimes she'll have a bit of veg or some crickets (on those occasions we wake her up mid-week for another bath) though not every time. Nine times out of ten she'll go straight in her cave once she's back in her viv.

We haven't changed her lighting set up - UV is on for 12 hours a day and heat is usually 45-ish on the basking spot, cooler side is usually 28-ish.

I'm just wondering how long she should reasonably brumate for - is there a point when we should start to be concerned? She hasn't lost any weight and the vet doesn't seem concerned; just said to take her in for a check up when she wakes up properly.


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 Post subject: Re: Long brumation...
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:05 pm 
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Never come across this before - I'll ask around here and see what others may think. You are aware that this regular bathing isn't needed as the systems pretty much shut down and it's a myth that they absorb water through any orifice other than by mouth?

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 Post subject: Re: Long brumation...
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:13 pm 
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Not something anyone I know has ever seen! Two suggestions however;-

1/ Get a fecal float done to re-check for intestinal parasites.
2/ Try kick starting the brumation process properly by turning everything off and then putting her somewhere in the dark and cold (around 15~16C) for a few weeks. This theoretically would complete brumation properly and get her mobile again if that is all it is.

One other question, is your vet a specialist in reptiles or a vet that has an interest in reps?

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 Post subject: Re: Long brumation...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:46 am 
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No not aware re the bathing - the vet told us to do it.

They are a reptile specialist practice - took us ages to find them as none of our local veterinary practices would touch a reptile - we even found one that specialised in reptiles but specifically not bearded dragons.

Do you think this is a bit of a long brumation then or just odd because of the time of year she started?

After a fair bit of research and consultation we assumed that the moving around of Walter sort of shocked her into brumation - she was bought from a pet shop aged two (we're told) so not sure on the history there, then the new owner changed their mind and she was moved again to someone else's place and then we picked her up after a week or two - so she moved at least three times in the space of a month - and then obviously it's cold and dark in general at this time of year so we were sort of hoping that with Spring around the corner she'll liven up a bit.

We'll give the switching off jobby a go for a couple of weeks; that'll take us into March and hopefully the weather and light will be improving by then too. We'll the parasite test done asap too.

Thanks for your reply.


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 Post subject: Re: Long brumation...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:01 am 
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I'm afraid that neither I nor any of my friends interested in dragons have ever heard/seen one start brumating mid- summer or due to sudden changes additionally they usually only go down for around 3 months. Going off food for a couple of weeks is the norm. For the water situation this may help viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1372 and for brumation this viewtopic.php?f=4&t=477 . As it's been down for a fair while don't worry about slowly cooling down basically switch everything off and either put it in a large box in a cool area or cover the viv itself.

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 Post subject: Re: Long brumation...
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:50 am 
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Hmmm - all seems a bit weird then.

We gave her a weigh last night and she's definitely not dropped any weight while she's been snoozing - she seems happy enough - as far as we can tell anyway and she isn't showing any signs of poor health.

She had a little drink from the dropper while she was up but nothing to eat.

We have a small 'travel viv' so we've popped her in there out of the way in the spare bedroom, lights off etc, house temp doesn't drop below 18 degrees so that should be fine.

So I guess we'll give it a few weeks and then turn the heat up and lights on - fingers crossed!

Thanks for your thoughts and advice.


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